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oslooskar
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| Kudos to Ariel Helwani! He's a real pro and knows how to conduct a proper interview. |
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Chrom1um
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Everyone had good points and it gave me a headache.
This is a huge gamble here no matter what happens.
Zuffa, don't let major league WMMA die. |
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Cugel
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Everyone had good points and it gave me a headache.
This is a huge gamble here no matter what happens.
Zuffa, don't let major league WMMA die. |
There is still hope even if Zuffa wash their hands of it.
Bellator on Spike would be a good high profile home for the former SF female divisions. Bellator needs all the high profile fighters they can get, and the likes of Tate, Rousey, Cyborg etc would be very appealing to them. |
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judoka27
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| What you write makes sense: WMMA with Bellator on Spike could potentially do very VERY well, thus strengthening a Zuffa competitor. I am sure Zuffa is aware of that and I wonder if they'd be comfortable with aiding growth of Bellator. |
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ace22
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Ben Fowlkes : http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/11/29/miesha-tate-ronda-rousey-and-the-argument-womens-mma-cant-st/
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.....it's produced what might be the best segment in MMA Hour history (no offense to "The Mitrione Minute"). For the first time in a long time, the MMA world is buzzing about women's MMA. And, contrary to how it might seem on the surface, it's not their looks that's driving the interest (though, okay, it doesn't hurt). Really, it's the argument over their looks and over how much it matters, and it's the same argument women's MMA has been having with itself for years.
It shouldn't be enough to be pretty. I don't just mean in MMA, either. Whether you're a man or a woman, good looks might be a minor win in the genetic lottery, but they don't make you a good or talented or even worthwhile person. We know this, even if we don't always act like it. To give a good-looking person special considerations just because we like looking at their face is embarrassingly dumb, not to mention unfair. That's why it makes for such a fascinating internal conflict for a women's division that's still struggling with its own identity.
No one wants to see women's MMA become a sideshow where untalented, untrained pretty girls fight it out in sports bras for the smile satisfaction of a caveman crowd. At least, I hope no one wants that, and if they do there are websites specifically for them (I've heard there are, anyway). At the same time, just as in the men's division, promote-ability matters. Brock Lesnar got a title shot after three fights -- which, in retrospect, still seems insane -- because he sold tickets and pay-per-views.
The good news is, MMA has a built-in lie detector to keep anyone from skating by on looks or attitude or popularity for too long, and that's the same for the women as it is for the men. If you can't fight, we'll find out soon enough. Eventually some ugly, boring person will punch you in the face until you can't stand up, and that will be that. Facial symmetry might be a useful gift, but it doesn't hold up too well in a sport that allows elbow strikes on the ground.
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