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ThehoundofCulan
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I like to throw my right low kick mostly. When I do, I really like to set it up off a single jab. If you are good at it and don't level change between the kick and the punch, it works quite well. The jab covers up the face and the kick can come in right after it. I like it. As for low kicks with the left, either off a jab cross or even after parrying a jab.
As for triangle set ups, I just like how easily you can flow between the triangle, armbar, and oma plata. I use those to set each other up. |
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KnockOut2
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 439 Location: Louisville, KY
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| Question : Is the single low kick off a jab worth taking the risk of being taken down? In MMA, if you are kicking someone's ass on the feet, then they will most likely try to take you down when given the opportunity. |
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greatlaughter Pro Fighter
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 259 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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if a wrestler wants to take the fight to the ground, the fight is going to the ground. plain and simple.
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KnockOut2
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 439 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure that is what Mark Coleman was thinking...
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ThehoundofCulan
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| That's why I low kick more. And the kick off of the jab is quite fast. If you cover up the face with the jab and are in close enough, there isn't a whole lot of room to properly shoot in, especially because it may involve them running in the knee of the leg you are kicking with. Granted, the force wouldn't be like actually trying to knee them, but if they are hit with it, it may be enough to deter them. And, if you are using your leg kick a lot, it'll mean that they are probably gonna keep tryin' to take you down anyway, because people don't like to get their legs kicked. If you've already landed a couple, though, they hopefully won't have a whole lot of spring in the step to level change and shoot. Doing then jab into a low leg kick a bunch of times will eventually let them time it so that they can shoot easily, but if you throw it after you've done a couple hand combos earlier, they won't know what's coming, especially if you let your other hand feint a cross as your hips begin to turn over for the kick. |
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greatlaughter Pro Fighter
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 259 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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That would all be fine if the person you were fighting was only interested in a takedown and doing no kicking or throwing of their own. I plan on making you think about my hands, my knees, my elbows, my kicks and my takedowns. But I still believe that a wrestler will take you down, period. They'll find a way in...the only real risk of a knee is if they lead with their head and an MMA-er, let's hope, wouldn't do that.
There's more than one way to skin a fish - as my granny would say.
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ThehoundofCulan
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| It works quite well in stand up too. I use it all the time when sparring in muay Thai class. Once it gets natural, it's really hard to read. Then again, the guys I spar aren't exactly the most talented...hm. I developed a new fav last night, though. It's a left kick off of parrying their jab, but it's set up weird. We had Saekson Janjira at our school about a month ago and the instructor just showed us the technique last night. If anyone gets a chance to see him, do it. You will hate the way you fight after he schools you. |
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Rikki Instructor

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 915 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| You also have a problem if your opponent decides to clinch and throw you instead of doing a double leg takedown. |
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ThehoundofCulan
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I can sprawl off of a kick, it's just a matter of how you let your foot come back. The point with any technique is to set it up or find and opening. That's why I prefer the leg kicks, openings are easier to get and the kicks are safer. Granted, I could easily be taken down if I tried a head kick, but low kicks make it much harder. I also think getting caught in a clinch is more of a danger in punching range than in kicking range. Again, refer to Saekson, he clinches outta nowhere in punching range. |
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fight4you
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 432
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: |
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This one is for Debi P. In your video clip on this site was that one fight with a guy? I couldn't really tell. How damaged did he end up from that anyway?
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KnockOut2
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 439 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard about Debi fighting any guys. Just training with them.
Though, I'm not Debi  |
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fight4you
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 432
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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lucky for them that she doesn't. It seems like a "Lose-Lose" situation for a guy to fight a girl. If the guy wins he gets a, "Yea Well you beat up a girl". If she wins, he gets a, "Wuss, a girl beat your ass".
I think a guy must be a bit of a masochist to step into that. It's kind of like answering your girlfriends' question, "Honey Do I look fat in this"?
No win.
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XcashXmoneyX Pro Fighter
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 236 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:25 am Post subject: |
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i can honestly say i dont have a "favorite" technique. it seems that when i get hung up on wanting to try one thing in particular, the other stuff suffers in standup AND ground. in all honesty though, i get a bigger case of the smiles when i nail the sidemount escapes, the mount escapes, the reversals, the guard passes...thats the basis of everything on the ground and it will save your ass faster than some fancy submission. it is, however ALWAYS gratifying to tap some poor fool out. i guess since all i have to train with is guys, and only a miniscule fraction of the a*s kickings are handed out by me...when i do get those escapes, passes, and reversals i feel like ive accomplished more. i think a lot of times people get too hung up on submissions and that definitely shows when they roll with someone who is technically more well-rounded. i learned that the hard way.
takedowns? no way am i telling you guys ANYTHING.
as far as striking goes, i really dont know. mostly i train the hell out of it, get frustrated, go smack my head on the wall, and come back and tackle it again. it all boils down to relentlessly drilling something 3975927503 times until i get it right, and then drilling it more. |
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